Tuesday, March 13, 2007

"Games for Windows" My Ass

I've had it with Vista and vVidia driver restart errors so naturally I rant.
As a producer for a game company I can't express my displeasure on this issue enough. Of the machines that I have built to test out on Vista, fully half of them suffer from restarting nvlddmkm errors.

My experiences on multiple machines are very similar to the posts in these threads in that each machine seems to have a different set of symptoms. Some machines crash if you do anything in windows or even when you do nothing.

Some machines are identical except for a single part such as the mobo and one will crash and one will not. Some only crash on 3d etc.

The deeper problem is that I cannot go in and "fix" these machines to get them working.

I have to assume that my customers are not even technical enough to find a forum like this let alone derive which of the 20 posted possible fixes might be right for them and execute that fix without bricking their machine and calling my tech support.

I can say with all honesty that for the last 6 years I have exclusively recommended nVidia graphics cards starting with TNT2's.

I recommend a mid level card every season to our playerbase (7600GT right now) and I always recommend nVidia chipset motherboards.

I can currently not recommend "Games for Windows" using Vista nor can I recommend nVidia with any conscience.

Fortunately for the games business, most gamers are quickly learning NOT to upgrade to Vista. It will be a real shame if they learn not to purchase nVidia while they are at it. Like me, they have long memories and as early adopters they often set the tone for the more casual in the space. Every hardcore or technical person has a particular brand that they shy away from for life (ECS anyone?) because of a single bad experience.

Please don't let this be that experience for me nVidia.

-Gophur
Ok, so it's a weenie of a rant but I've learned that screaming like a baby doesn't actually make anyone who can do anything about it want to bother to read it. You learn those kinda things in this biz. Anyhoo, if you're having these issues, and if you are running nVidia and Vista I'd say it's 50-50, please take a moment to post.

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4 Comments:

Stang said...

So far Vista has been a hand tieing/hog.

XP will most likely be my last Microsoft OS. I will wait though and see how it plays out.

7:34 PM  
Anonymous said...

ive had real good luck with my 8800gtx's and 680i mobo, that is after replacing both motherboards... No real problems to speak of.

Merc88

5:11 PM  
ctechguy said...

Currently using a Toshiba Satellite A215-S4747 with Vista Home Basic and a ATI Mobility Radeon X1200 onboard video to run the Virtual Battlefield.

When I went from 1gb DDR2 RAM to 2GB, whatever issues I had for my laptop in general went away :)

Before that, Vista acted a little "strange" at times...

7:34 AM  
Gophur said...

Yeah it really wants at least 2gigs. I think I probably need to give Vista another shot since SP1 is slated for the first of the year. I'm really not liking the M$ these days.

9:22 AM  

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